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How much income tax you need to pay per year in your country?

lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
Hi guys, let's discuss one question which realtes closely to our common life, how much income tax you need to pay per year in your country?

In China, the more your salary is the more you have to pay to the government. My husband should pay more 2000 RMB than me this year, we are not sure about next year how much we need to pay.

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  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    I think it's bad you don't know what you might be expected to pay next year @lisa, but usually the rates of tax don't change much and people have a good idea that they will be paying away 25% or a third of their income in tax (in the UK and if they're not higher rate tax payers). I think it's fair the more a person earns, the more they should pay. I don't think poor people should pay so much tax, especially if they then need help with paying for their rent or other costs. In the UK the cost of childcare and taxes can mean unless the mother gets a reasonable income, it's not worthwhile working.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    There was a change about tax last year, and it has been restricted from then on about paying income tax. Disabled are took care of by the government, and they and the employers of them can pay less tax in China. The basic level, from which people should pay income tax, of people who work abroad is higher than people who work in China mainland, for example, my salary is 10 000 RMB per month, and I should pay income tax based on 5000 RMB, but my classmate who work in Beijing has the same salary with me should pay income tax based on 7000 or 6000 RMB. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    This sounds odd @lisa.

    Often people who work abroad, as long as they keep the money out of the country they normally pay taxes, avoid paying tax. This is why so many people go to work in the Middle Eastern countries. However as soon as the money is repatriated then they are liable to tax on it. This might explain why so many ex-pats chose not to return home.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    Unfortunately our salaries are paid in China :'( , so we must pay income tax. @mheredge Chinese prefer to be back to China maybe because our food is attractive. :p
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    Haha maybe it's the food in the UK that keeps me from wanting to return @lisa.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    Then welcome to China,hahaha @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    The food is nice in China, though I prefer spicier food like from Thailand @lisa. I do however love the subtle flavours of herbs that French cuisine favours.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    There is a branch of our company in Thailand, and some former colleagues have been sent there, they told me that they do not like the food of Thailand, maybe because most of them are from Northern areas of China, the food from Thailand is similar to the flvours from Sourthern areas of China as I was told, but the sea food from Thailand is fabulous. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    Thai food is very spice @lisa, which is probably why your northern Chinese colleagues didn't like it (it is one of my favourites). I think anyone from Sichuan would appreciate it though.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    I have never tried Thai food until now, but I will try it in the future, I think. People from Sichuan prefers peppers and sichuanese peppercorn which is very tasteful, but they are less drastic than diet from Chongqiong, the food of Chongqiong is full of peppers, and they prefer Chinese hot pot very much, even in summer. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    Thai food is really lovely as they use spices in very creative and varied ways. Lemon grass, kaffir leaves, chilli, ginger, coconut milk - these make the food taste amazing.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    edited February 19
    My families and relatives have been enjoying delicious food during Chinese Traditioanl Spring festival, which usually lasts at least 15 days, can you imagine that? They can enjoy all the delicious food during these 15 days, and of course, their weights will be very equal to what they enjoy, haha @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    Is this the main holiday of the year @lisa? 15 days! In the UK two days for Christmas and Easter weekend are the longest holidays.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    Yes, but they do not have formal jobs, and most of them work for themselves, that is why they can have a so long holiday. For example, my younger brother has his own truck, he does not have any businesses until the 15th of Chinese lunar January, or after that date. Normally, people have three days as a holiday if they work in a company or government office, but usually we work before and after the holiday, so we can enjoy 7 days totally as a holiday. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    The biggest problem about being self employed and taking time off @lisa, is that though you can take off as much time as you want without a boss or employer controlling this, you usually are not able to earn any money while you're on holiday. So then the time off becomes very expensive as not only are you paying for your holiday, but you are also not earning money during this time.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    That is why my husband and I are admired by them, but actually we have our own troubles, for example, we are concerned about our salaries, our daughter can not be together with us, and so on. Life is tough for everyone. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    If you have a permanent full time job @lisa, I can see how this helps at job security is important. Temporary contracts unfortunately seem to be the way employers prefer to hire labour these days.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    There are no permanent full time jobs in China nowadays except housewives, but both of us know that job is the most dangerous one in the world. Once I was a full-time housewife when my daughter was young, that period was the hardest time in my whole life, fortunately my husband had never made any financial limitations for me, but I could not tolerate the feelings of isolation and lackness of security. @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    I am working with a travel company that is helping develop homestays run by women @lisa. The idea is that these housewives can earn a bit of money that then makes all the difference to their lives. You are right, without some income, women can become like slaves to their husbands unless they have an understanding partner like you have.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    I have been used to work in the office instead of being a housewife, although my husband treated me very well, my temper was horrible and I felt desperate in most of time. Of course, there were numerous conflicts between my husband and I at that time. @mheredge Incessant income not only brings security for woman, but also harmony for the family. Working is one kind of factors which can keep female young and full of energy.
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    I can imagine being stuck at home as a housewife must have been very limiting @lisa, so little wonder you were bad tempered. I think for an active person like you, you thrive on the challenge of work too.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    Maybe my bad temper was caused by changed secretion after giving birth of my daughter, because I usually felt dispressful and desperate during that period. Anyway, working is a best way to keep me full of vatility . @mheredge
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    This is called 'post-natal depression' @lisa and I believe it is quite common. It occurs due to a change in your hormones.
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    Yes, it is true, there are lots of changes in my body, too, fat, hair losses and so on. "Post-natal-depression" is horrible in China now, there are even some mothers jumping from their home which locates in 20 or more than 20 floors. @mheredge Of course, "post-natal-depression" is just one of the reasons, there are still other reasons, such as confrontations between their mother-in-laws, ect. @mheredge Mom is a really hard job in the whole world, I have to say, and I can totally understand my mom after giving birth of my daughter.
  • mheredgemheredge Teacher Here and therePosts: 31,042 mod
    I have to say @lisa that this is the one job I have never really wanted to take on! I think too, not enough is understood about depression (as @Michouxe explains in the topic 'depression').
  • lisalisa Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭
    edited March 5
    Maybe because the advanced development of economy which makes new moms have enough time to consider or concern or feel anxiety. @mheredge Anyway, new moms need much more care from their families, especially their husbands. I have to say that mom is a native characteristic job for females, but dad seems to have lots of things to learn before being a qualified daddy. For example, dads are awalys deep sleeping no matter how the voices from their babies loudly are! Mom wakes up even their babies just turn their bodies.
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