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William Shakespeare

BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2016 in Books and Poetry
Are you a big fan of Shakespeare?

You can talk about Shakespeare's life, work, share some dialogues, ask question related to his plays. @Xanthippe will definitely help you as she is a true follower of Shakespeare. In other words, crown princess of Shakespeare's legacy. ;)
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  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe let me ask the same question that I asked in another thread. :)
    Xanthippe said:

    @Bubbly, but what about my kangaroo, my dear? Dropped a line and disappeared. Something went wrong with your kangaroo business.

    Let's switch to 'Othello':
    'I saw Othello's visage in his mind,
    And to his honour and his valiant parts
    Did I my soul and fortunes consecrate.'

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    Bubbly said:

    @Xanthippe just imagine you are sitting on a kangaroo and reading these verses. ;)

    What does 'visage in his mind' mean here?

    I think we should start another discussion otherwise Lynne with redirect us by saying 'stay on the track'. ;)

  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, you are a winner, you have surpassed me in obscurity. It is so convoluted that I have nothing more to say.
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, not only Shakespeare, Marlowe too if you remember. ;)
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I am reading Romeo and Juliet. Don't be surprised! I need a reference for a discussion. So, I found these lines. I thought to share them with you. @Xanthippe ;)


    But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?
    It is the east and Juliet is the sun!
    Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon,
    Who is already sick and pale with grief
    That thou her maid art far more fair than she.
    Be not her maid, since she is envious;
    Her vestal livery is but sick and green,
    And none but fools do wear it. Cast it off.
    It is my lady, O, it is my love! (10)
    O that she knew she were!
    She speaks, yet she says nothing; what of that?
    Her eye discourses, I will answer it.
    I am too bold: 'tis not to me she speaks.
    Two of the fairest stars in all the heaven,
    Having some business, do entreat her eyes
    To twinkle in their spheres till they return.
    What if her eyes were there, they in her head?
    The brightness of her cheek would shame those stars,
    As daylight doth a lamp. Her eyes in heaven (20)
    Would through the airy region stream so bright
    That birds would sing and think it were not night.
    See how she leans her cheek upon her hand
    O that I were a glove upon that hand,
    That I might touch that cheek!
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    @Bubbly, a wrong play. If you have been too fussy, you should be punished. ;) This is 'Taming of the Shrew':

    KATHARINA

    I pray you, husband, be not so disquiet:
    The meat was well, if you were so contented.

    PETRUCHIO

    I tell thee, Kate, 'twas burnt and dried away;
    And I expressly am forbid to touch it,
    For it engenders choler, planteth anger;
    And better 'twere that both of us did fast,
    Since, of ourselves, ourselves are choleric,
    Than feed it with such over-roasted flesh.
    Be patient; to-morrow 't shall be mended,
    And, for this night, we'll fast for company:
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  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe Is it not Romeo and Juliet?
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, what do you mean? Your quote or my quote? :) :) :)
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, exactly speaking, the state of my mind is 'Taming of the Shrew' and not 'Romeo and Juliet'. :)
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe of course, the one I shared. Balcony scene. :)
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, the famous balcony scene :)
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe Yup. Did you watch this play? :)
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, of course, many times, in English and in Polish. :) The first time in primary school.
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe you people are far ahead from us. There is no concept of English plays in my country. But, folklore is highly popular and presented in theatres few years back.
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, I don't think we are ahead. I haven't seen any Pakistani plays here. We just belong to Western culture for historical reasons. Shakespeare is obligatory at school.

    Frankly, I think we are well behind everything and everybody in particular when I read Polish research papers and books.
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2016
    @Xanthippe It seems our tragedies are not bigger than the Shakespeare tragedies. ;)

  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, well summarised, but they do have speeches in-between. ;)
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, I mean that if you are stabbed you are able to talk for roughly ten minutes before you die. ;)

    CASSIUS

    Pardon, Caesar; Caesar, pardon:
    As low as to thy foot doth Cassius fall,
    To beg enfranchisement for Publius Cimber.

    CASSIUS

    I could be well moved, if I were as you:
    If I could pray to move, prayers would move me:
    But I am constant as the northern star,
    Of whose true-fix'd and resting quality
    There is no fellow in the firmament.
    The skies are painted with unnumber'd sparks,
    They are all fire and every one doth shine,
    But there's but one in all doth hold his place:
    So in the world; 'tis furnish'd well with men,
    And men are flesh and blood, and apprehensive;
    Yet in the number I do know but one
    That unassailable holds on his rank,
    Unshaked of motion: and that I am he,
    Let me a little show it, even in this;
    That I was constant Cimber should be banish'd,
    And constant do remain to keep him so.

    CINNA

    O Caesar,--

    CAESAR

    Hence! wilt thou lift up Olympus?

    DECIUS BRUTUS

    Great Caesar,--

    CAESAR

    Doth not Brutus bootless kneel?

    CASCA

    Speak, hands for me!

    CASCA first, then the other Conspirators and BRUTUS stab CAESAR

    CAESAR

    Et tu, Brute! Then fall, Caesar.

    Dies

    CINNA

    Liberty! Freedom! Tyranny is dead!
    Run hence, proclaim, cry it about the streets.
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 9,069 mod
    edited October 2016
    Hi @Bubbly.

    For Othello's visage, look here:-

    I saw Othello’s true face when I saw his mind.

    http://nfs.sparknotes.com/othello/page_46.html
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Lynne I always think why did Shakespeare create Othello's character as it is not the literature type character especially when it comes to Shapkespeare's work?!

    @Xanthippe what do you say? :)

  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, I haven't got your question.
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Xanthippe :( How is it possible? Forget it.

    Which one is your favourite character?

    Shakespeare's 25 greatest characters
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/what-to-see/shakespeares-greatest-characters/
  • XanthippeXanthippe Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Bubbly, it IS possible. I haven't caught the nature of fire. ;)

    OK, I will check your link. ;)
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    @Xanthippe no no no...you can't be @Frank ;)

    Don't frank with the Frank's character! :)
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    @Xanthippe what about LADY MACBETH (Macbeth)? :)

  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I personally like VIOLA (Twelfth Night)- A crying woman! LOL


  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I like this painting of AUTOLYCUS (The Winter's Tale)


  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 9,069 mod
    edited December 2016
    I still like The Taming of the Shrew.

    imageWashington Allston, American - Scene from Shakespeare's "The Taming of the Shrew" (Katharina and Petruchio) - Google Art Project.jpg
    By Washington Allston, American, 1779 - 1843 (1779 - 1843) – Artist/Maker (American) Born in Georgetown, South Carolina, United States. Dead in Cambridgeport, Massachuetts, United States. Details of artist on Google Art Project - 4AGtBDwni1Z91w at Google Cultural Institute maximum zoom level, Public Domain, Link" alt="" />


  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Lynne it looks awesome! Every character is equally important in Shakespeare's plays.
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 29,897 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
    @mohit_singh You are reading Shakespeare's stories these days. Aren't you?!
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