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The difference between If and whether

FerFer Posts: 144 ✭✭
edited July 2015 in Conditionals
1. He will call me if there is news.
2. He will call whether there is news.
The both examples look very similar
But in the first he will call only in one way, if there is news.
In the second he will call anyway, there is news or not
how about these examples?
I did not know if my mom had bought apples.
I did not know whether my mom had bought apples.


Is " I did not know if my mom had bought apples " a conditional type ?
As I know ,It doesn't contains any type of if conditional.
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  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    " I did not know if my mom had bought apples "
    There is no condition here. You are just using "if" to show uncertainty. (If has lots of uses, the conditional is one of them.)
  • aprilapril Moderator Posts: 9,772 mod
    edited October 2015
    What about:
    - I would have known if my mom had bought apples.
    Then it's a conditonal sentence, right?
    (And we would have had an apple cake :) )
    Post edited by april on
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    I would have known if my mum had bought apples, because if she had we would have had apple cake. ;)
  • aprilapril Moderator Posts: 9,772 mod
    Why is "apple cake" here without an article, @Lynne ?
    (Here we go again)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭✭
    This is giving me headache.
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    The apple cake never arrived @April.

    *a headache. :smile:
  • aprilapril Moderator Posts: 9,772 mod
    But I wish that I could have had an apple cake, @Lynne . :)
  • sai1sai1 Posts: 19 ✭✭
    > @Lynne said:
    > 1. He will call me if there is news. (This is clear. You only get a call when there is some news.)
    >
    > Let's make number 2 a bit clearer:-
    >
    > 2. He will call whether there is news, or not. (You will get a call, no matter what happens.)
  • sai1sai1 Posts: 19 ✭✭
    it is for inspire myself one day I got added whatsoever happeing. i happy if it will get sooner
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭✭✭
    If or whether
  • joezhoujoezhou Posts: 1
    > @Fer said:
    > 1. He will call me if there is news.
    > 2. He will call whether there is news.
    > The both examples look very similar
    > But in the first he will call only in one way, if there is news.
    > In the second he will call anyway, there is news or not
    > how about these examples?
    > I did not know if my mom had bought apples.
    > I did not know whether my mom had bought apples.
    >
    >
    > Is " I did not know if my mom had bought apples " a conditional type ?
    > As I know ,It doesn't contains any type of if conditional.

    a bit difficult!
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    You are correct @joezhou.

    To make it conditional you could say:-

    If my mum had bought apples, I would have known.
  • imam_agoesimam_agoes Posts: 10
    Hello, i'm from indonesia..as i know,the peoples around me very rarely using "wheter" they only using "if"..i don't know, maybe it's sounds familiar to our ears (indonesian)
  • deelipdeelip Posts: 2
    This two are condinal function . if we show one thing at time we can use if.but when there two conditions there can be we use weather
  • Penelope204Penelope204 Posts: 70 ✭✭
    The both are correct?
    I'm going to the beach if there is sun.
    I'm going to the beach whether there is a sun.
    In the second one i'm saying that i'll go to the beach in Whichever case?
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    edited May 2016
    @Penelope204 - I would say:-

    I'm going to the beach if it's sunny. (Conditional)
    I'm going to the beach whether it's sunny, or not. (Not conditional)
  • AnuradaAnurada Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    I'll go with you if you like it. or I'll go with you whether you like it
    I'll go with you whether you like it or not like it
    which one is correct I am little bit confused.
  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 8,631 mod
    I'll go with you if you like.

    I'll go with you whether you like it or not.
    or
    I'll go with you, like it or not.
  • GlorianGlorian Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016

    If I were you

    If I were you
  • GlorianGlorian Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    Damn it...
  • GlorianGlorian Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭✭
    Unless you hand in your homework, I won't mark it. means If you don't hand in your homework, I won't mark it. <-What does it means?
  • GlorianGlorian Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2016
    I'm just giving my view of this topic:
    1th. If you get drunk today as always, I'll kick you outside! - Said the wife to her husband.
    2d. If I had wings, I wouldn't do that mistake! - Thought Icarus getting closer to the ground.
    3d. If I hadn't ate that rotten apple, I wouldn't have sleep at the restroom.
    0 cond. If you drop a match to the fuel tank, you're dead.
    All I did right, @Lynne? :grin:

    ----------------------

    "If you get drunk again today, I'll kick you out," Said the wife to her husband.
    "If I had had real wings, I wouldn't have made this mistake," Thought Icarus getting closer to the ground.
    If I hadn't eaten that rotten apple, I wouldn't have fallen asleep in the restroom.
    If you drop that match in the fuel tank, you're dead.

    Are they all correct, @Lynne? :grin:

    Not quite, but a good attempt.

    Post edited by Lynne on
  • takafromtokyotakafromtokyo Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭✭
    Conditionals are difficult. Not only are their structures difficult, but how to decide which one to use is also difficult.
  • LeeInHaLeeInHa Posts: 22 ✭✭
    This Discussion is helpful for my English.
    I didn't know difference if or whether.
    Thanks all members who posted comment to here.
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