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What is one to say about June? The time of perfect young summer, the fulfilment of the promise of the earlier months, and with as yet no sign to remind one that its fresh young beauty will ever fade.

Gertrude Jekyll
A swarm of bees in May
Is worth a load of hay;
A swarm of bees in June
Is worth a silver spoon;
A swarm of bees in July
Is not worth a fly.
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DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
I've known that sound ''i'' after L i always comes before E such as ''believe'' BUT MANY PEOPLE PRONOUNCE LEISURE/ˈli ʒər/ so this rule is wrong? but people also pronounce LEISURE lɛʒ ər/ ANOTHER RULE sound ''i'' after C ''e'' always comes before ''i'' such as: ''receive'' ''perceive'' I think this is right.


  • LynneLynne Your Teacher HomePosts: 9,208 mod
    edited June 2015
    Hi @DAVID.A.M.R,

    Different pronunciation is often a case of AmE vs BrE. There's no right or wrong, knowing both is useful, and consistency is key.


    UK - ˈleʒ.ər

    US - ˈliː.ʒɚ

    As for the spelling rule i before e except after c, it comes unravelled many times.

    weird / neighbour / concierge ...

  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    weird, Seize are Exceptions, and many others as well.
  • ZomZom Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL @DAVID.A.M.R - You're going to give you a hard time if you're working on an inventory of rules and their exceptions. Mission impossible. Why did you accept it? Who tricked you? :p
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Zom Do you know these rules? :)
  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    rules that I've known: accent rules: Accent Rule #1: Each word with two or more syllables has one syllable whose vowel is accented. For example, for-gét. Accents are very important to spelling rules. Accented means that the sound of that vowel is stressed, or louder, than those in other syllables.

    Accent Rule #2: A long word may have more than one accent. The vowel that is stressed more or most is called the primary accent. The primary accent is key to many of the spelling rules. A second accented vowel is called the secondary accent. For example, cón-ver-sá-tion. Very long words can have even more stressed vowel sounds, but only one primary accent.

    Accent Rule #3: The primary accent is usually on the root before a double consonant. For example, for-gét-ting.

    Accent Rule #4: Unaccented vowel sounds frequently have the soft /uh/ schwa sound, especially when there is only one letter in the syllable. All vowels can have the schwa sound. For example, the a in a-boút.

    Accent Rule #5: The primary accent is usually on the first syllable in two-syllable words. For example, páy-ment.

    Accent Rule #6: The primary accent is usually on the second syllable of two-syllable words that have a prefix in the first syllable and a root in the second syllable. For example, dis-tráct.

    Accent Rule #7: For two-syllable words that act as both nouns and verbs, the primary accent is usually on the prefix (first syllable) of the noun and on the root (second syllable) of the verb. For example, pró-duce as a noun; pro-dúce as a verb.

    Accent Rule #8: The primary accent is usually on the first syllable in three-syllable words, if that syllable is a root. For example, chár-ac-ter.

    Accent Rule #9: The primary accent is usually on the second syllable in three-syllable words that are formed by a prefix-root-suffix. For example, in-vést-ment.

    Accent Rule #10: The primary accent is usually on the second syllable in four-syllable words. For example, in-tél-li-gent.
  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    pronounce and spelling: DGE is used only after a single vowel which says its short (first) sound.
    CK is used only after a single vowel which says its short (first) sound.
    English words do not end in I, U, V, or J.: therefore ''e'' : true, blue, exception: menu, you
    C always softens to /s/ when followed by E, I, or Y. Otherwise, C says /k/.
    G may soften to /j/ only when followed by E, I, or Y. Otherwise, G says /g/.
  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    ‘e’ comes before ‘i’ when sounded like (ay) as in neighbor and weigh.
  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    accent rules help me so much to write
  • DAVID.A.M.RDAVID.A.M.R Posts: 18 ✭✭
    this video is very useful to understand spelling better:Understanding Spelling Part 1 and Understanding Spelling par 2 on youtube
  • ZomZom Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm more into anarchy @bubbli. As less as possible rules exist in my world.
  • BubblyBubbly Nightingale Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Zom Existence of rules in one's life is important. No matter when life forces you to follow them. :)
  • ZomZom Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then we'll live in different worlds @bubbly. There is room for everybody.
  • CheskaCheska Posts: 80 ✭✭
    guys do you also have a problem pronouncing "TH" in a word like "thought" because sometimes I pronounced it like tought and the word "THE" but it sounded like "Dah", my teacher told me that the tongue should be from outside. hehe
  • PawelZybulskijPawelZybulskij Posts: 20 ✭✭
    don`t wasting time to study for this rules. There are lots exceptions for each rule, also there are lots accents, just more listen real native english speech and try immitate it.
  • HakanHakan Posts: 13 ✭✭
    thank you it was helpful :)
  • renothingrenothing Posts: 40 ✭✭
    Thank you.
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